Tangelic Talks – Episode 10
Sculpting Sustainability through Art and Entanglement with Artist Sara Black
10 minutes to read
In this episode, Sara Black shares how her artistic practice intertwines sustainability, material histories, and ecological consciousness. She discusses her approach to “entanglement”—both as a philosophical concept and a physical process—where materials, environments, and human interventions are deeply interconnected. Sara reflects on her use of reclaimed wood, diseased trees, and inherited building materials, explaining how these choices challenge conventional ideas of waste and regeneration. She also explores how working with materials in a slow, intentional manner fosters a deeper relationship with nature and resists extractive models of production.
Rethinking Nature and Human Entanglements
Sara shares how her upbringing on a dairy farm in northern Wisconsin shaped her perspective on interconnected systems. Rather than seeing nature as separate from human existence, she views the world as an intricate web where boundaries between the self and the environment are artificially constructed.
“Nature is not something ‘out there,’” she explains. “It’s something we are fundamentally entangled with, and that separation is a construct that needs to be challenged.”
Art as a Tool for Cultural Shifts
Sara’s artistic practice aims to dismantle the illusion of individualism by exposing the ways humans interact with materials, time, and ecosystems. She describes her work as tracing through lines—connections that cross perceived boundaries, whether between species, historical timelines, or political structures.
One of her key projects, Untidy Objects, exemplifies this philosophy. She and her collaborators transformed a chemically treated urban lawn into a thriving biodiverse landscape near the University of Chicago. This living sculpture questions notions of ownership, conservation, and political agency, offering a model for more integrated ecological thinking.
Teaching Sustainability Through Experiential Learning
Sara’s Knowledge Lab: Entanglements course at the Art Institute of Chicago is a direct extension of her artistic philosophy. Over a semester, students collaboratively prepare for a final shared meal by:
– Growing food indoors
– Foraging in local landscapes
– Harvesting wild clay to create tableware
– Building furniture that supports both human and non-human species
By mapping their entanglements with food, soil, and ecosystems, students develop a tangible understanding of interdependence.
Ethical Material Use and Indigenous Knowledge
Sara’s work often engages with salvaged or ecologically complex materials, such as disease-infected wood and charcoalized rubber trees. She emphasizes ethical sourcing and often consults with Indigenous knowledge keepers to understand the cultural and ecological significance of her materials.
For instance, her 7,000 Marks project involved creating handmade pencils from tan oak trees infected with Sudden Oak Death, a pathogen threatening North American forests. This project not only repurposed damaged trees but also sparked conversations about ecosystem resilience and hidden environmental crises.
Thought Provoking Q&A Session with Sara Black
That’s such a rich question, and it immediately got my wheels turning. I think the example of the Thailand Biennial is a great one. First, I’d say that I’m always concerned with the context in which I’m making work. In some ways, the work can be described as site-responsive art, meaning that everything—whether it’s material, content, or context—is part of the piece. Whatever the specific context may be—whether cultural, geographical, geological, or biological—that all becomes integral to the work.
So yes, when we were invited to participate in the biennial, we were asked to create an installation outdoors. It was a unique event because all the works were site-specific and located outdoors. My collaborator, Amber Ginsburg, architect Charlie Vins, and I worked together to create the piece, which we titled Museum of the Great Outdoors. We were specifically invited to work in Tanbakh Korani National Park, a beautiful spot in Krabi, Thailand.
Our focus was on how humans conceive of or construct nature—how we name and label it, and how those labels influence our behavior. In Thailand, trees are considered sacred; it’s illegal to cut down a tree, much like it’s illegal to harm a human in most cultures. However, there’s an interesting exception: rubber trees are seen as crop plants, not as sacred trees. They are treated as commodities, which means they can be farmed and harvested, just like any other crop. This was the starting point of our project—exploring how we impose these labels on nature. We wanted to question the hierarchies we create with our categories. A rubber tree, in this case, is something we extract from, but a sacred tree, part of the forest, holds a higher status. We decided to work with the rubber tree itself, using its material to create the artwork. The purpose was to have people reflect on how humans project value onto certain aspects of nature. Why is the rubber tree considered less valuable than other trees?
To demonstrate this concept, we carbonized a large portion of the rubber tree, turning it into charcoal to emphasize its carbon content. The tree itself remained intact, and we built a museum around it. Inside the museum, visitors were surrounded by this carbon-based life form—the tree had transformed into something more than just a commodity or a sacred entity. In a sense, it became stardust, existing as something far beyond its previous labels. It’s a concept that expands the rubber tree beyond its utilitarian value or cultural status—into something that transcends all of those distinctions. The work invites a reflective moment about how we value nature and how those values shape our behavior.
Yes, I do have an example. So, at the most basic level, I'm a woodworker. I build things with wood, and I particularly enjoy working with diseased trees. They represent ecological circumstances and histories that are rich and interconnected.
A few years ago, my collaborator Amber and I worked with trees affected by a pathogen called Phytophthora ramorum, commonly known as Sudden Oak Death. This pathogen has been devastating oak species, particularly in California. It's like a tree pandemic, and though it's being quarantined, there's concern that it will spread to the live oak trees in the southern U.S. We received a tan oak tree infected with this pathogen, and we made 7,000 handmade pencils from it. These pencils became part of an ongoing project where we hold workshops to discuss the entanglements of ecology, disease, and human impact. We named the piece 7,000 Marks, which references Joseph Beuys' 7,000 Oaks from the 80s.
What really struck me about this project is how unbelievably hard the tan oak wood is. It’s known as "stone oak," and it lives up to its name. Working with it was incredibly challenging. I was trying to process this material into 7,000 pencils, which sounds easy in theory, but in practice, it was a massive undertaking. The wood shattered like glass when we tried to mold it, which was frustrating. We learned that indigenous communities would soak tan oak in a river for seven years before using it because of how difficult it was to work with. It was eye-opening to realize that the traditional ecological knowledge passed down by these communities was exactly what we needed to handle the material properly. We had been naïvely pushing it through machines, which caused it to explode, but the indigenous techniques helped us understand how to work with it more effectively.
It was a real lesson in the extraordinary properties of the plants around us and the importance of respecting traditional knowledge.
Yes, it’s incredibly important to me. I’m probably being a bit repetitive, but because every project I work on is site-responsive, it always involves and includes traditional knowledge. The work I do doesn’t contribute to further ecosystem degradation—in fact, it aims to do the opposite.
One project I’m thinking of right now is from 2018, called the Edward Hines National Forest. It was a collaboration with the Hyde Park Art Center in Chicago, and Raewyn Martin was my collaborator. The piece explored deforestation in the Northwoods of Wisconsin, which is where I’m from. Back then, all the white pines were taken down during the “cutover period” between 1880 and 1920. A lumber baron named Edward Hines deforested the entire northern part of Wisconsin. The wood was then transported down the Mississippi River and used to build Chicago and the western United States.
For us, it was really important to engage in a conversation about how the people who have lived on that land for thousands of years, as well as the settler communities now living there, perceive the land’s current state. As part of the exhibition, we created a book inspired by the US Forest Service’s “use book,” but we emptied it out and filled it with our own content. We interviewed local tribal elders to understand their experience of the land's transformation, and we also spoke to DNR foresters to get their perspective. We wanted to tell the story from multiple viewpoints to honor everyone’s experience while avoiding any further harm. It was a very collaborative process.
I really believe in the power of uplifting each other. One of the things that tends to happen in individualistic systems is that names get erased. For example, you often see that when a woman biologist or scholar contributes something, their name may be omitted, and their contributions can get lost. I recognize this through a feminist lens, and it’s something I’m committed to in my practice—not just as a woman artist, but as a collaborator in general. I collaborate with many different people, and it’s really important to me that their voices are uplifted. It’s just the truth of the situation.
And honestly, it’s something that comes off so authentically in my work. I don’t have a list of people I need to mention; it’s simply who contributed, and I make sure their contributions are acknowledged because that’s what happened. All of my collaborators share this mindset as well. We are all very sensitive to making sure that if someone's name is hidden or overlooked, it’s brought back into the light. At the end of the day, it’s all about making sure the reality of what happened is fully recognized.
That’s exactly how it works. My work has a specific agenda, which is to help inform a cultural conversation about the human relationship with the non-human world and to address what I believe are exploitative and extractive practices that are unsustainable. I know that’s a lot of jargon, but that’s essentially the core of my work. That being said, I do bring certain biases when approaching these sites or contexts.
If I were to use an artistic analogy, I would say that I choose specific colors to highlight in the painting of my work because I want to create a certain picture. For example, I might choose to engage with an Indigenous elder over another community member because I’m interested in highlighting their voice. But we also try to provide a diversity of perspectives, not just a counter-narrative but a range of voices. I often create texts or writings in relation to my work to accompany the piece itself.
I gather input from experts. A few years ago, I worked on a project in Southern Illinois, where there’s significant coal extraction. Beneath the ground in this area is a well-preserved fossilized forest from the Carboniferous era, one of the most intact fossil forests ever found. The miners who were working in the coal mines discovered it, and the coal was the soil from which this forest grew. The forest fossilized beautifully due to a climate event similar to the warming we’re experiencing now. To understand the context, I spoke with paleo-geologists and experts who could explain how these fossils were formed, why this warming event occurred, and how it parallels the current climate crisis.
I collaborated with a group called Deep Time Chicago, and we also brought members of our audience on a hike through the area to discuss the fossil system. We interviewed the miners who saw these tree fossils while working in the mines, and we included their voices in an audio piece presented in the installation. Only a few people—paleo-geologists and the miners—have ever seen these fossils. So, the process is like research, blending creative output with factual investigation. It’s very much about including all the voices and perspectives in the work."
Sara Black
Associate Professor of Sculpture – Sculpture Department Graduate Coordinator – School of the Art Institute of Chicago
