Tangelic Talks – Season 02 | Episode 09
Personal Sustainability, Community Action & Mindful Consumption w/ Claudia Cordova | S02E09
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In this episode of Tangelic Talks, we sit down with sustainability advocate Claudia to explore what it really means to live sustainably — not as a perfect ideal, but as a daily practice grounded in awareness, community, and care. Claudia shares how personal sustainability starts with mindful consumption — pausing to reflect on how our habits connect to larger systems, and making choices that nourish our bodies, minds, and environments. We talk about the intersection of well-being and sustainability, and how rest, joy, and slowness are also forms of resistance.
The Intersection of Life and Sustainability
Claudia grew up straddling multiple worlds—from the dense, vibrant neighborhoods of Mexico City to the quiet suburbs of Philadelphia, from private schools focused on entrepreneurship to rural family farms. These varied life experiences shaped her approach to sustainability, which she defines not as a fixed ideology, but as a holistic and evolving process grounded in equity, context, and compassion.
She reflects: “Sustainability is not just about preserving pristine spaces. It’s about understanding that deserts can be more sustainable than a manicured golf course, and that what’s ‘natural’ isn’t always what’s best.”
The Mental Toll of Perfectionism
As someone passionate about the environment, Claudia acknowledges the emotional strain of trying to live perfectly green. She once found herself consumed with guilt over every flight taken or bottle purchased—until she realized that true sustainability includes mental health and realistic boundaries.
“I had to let go of trying to control everything,” she says. “I realized that stressing over perfection isn’t sustainable either.”
Instead, she focuses on small wins, like encouraging her partner to recycle or skipping unnecessary purchases. It’s these micro-decisions, made consistently and without judgment, that she believes lead to lasting impact.
Relational Sustainability: Letting Go of Judgment
Claudia speaks candidly about how environmentalists often alienate others with rigid ideals. Rather than impose guilt, she champions a more empathetic and relational model, where education is rooted in shared humanity.
She shares a story of an entrepreneur in a marginalized Mexico City neighborhood who couldn’t afford reusable cups because he lacked water access. “How can I demand zero waste from someone who doesn’t even have basic services?” she asks.
The key, she says, is to understand someone’s starting point before offering solutions. “We need to replace blame with curiosity.”
Community Over Individualism
One of Claudia’s central messages is that sustainability must move away from individual heroism and towards collective care. During the COVID-19 pandemic, she worked with local entrepreneurs who supported each other through food donations and job-sharing.
“True sustainability looks like a community helping each other survive,” she says. “That’s how we build resilience.”
Teaching Sustainability Through Lived Experience
From camps in rural Mexico to waiting tables in the UK, Claudia has seen how disconnected many people are from concepts like climate change. Even in Europe, she encountered adults unfamiliar with basic environmental terms. This inspired her to advocate for sustainability education that begins with real-world relevance and teaches not just facts, but values, curiosity, and context.
“Sustainability is everywhere,” she explains. “It should be taught across subjects—in math, history, food studies—because it touches every aspect of life.”
A New Narrative of Hope and Pragmatism
Rather than demonize oil or monoculture, Claudia emphasizes nuance. These systems once helped societies survive, and the path forward must honor that history while advocating for better alternatives.
“We can build on what worked and transition away from what no longer serves us,” she says. “But we can’t do that with judgment and erasure.”
Thought Provoking Q&A Session with Claudia Cordova
One of the things I always tell people—especially small business owners—is to really focus on the people you work with. Whether it’s your clients, your suppliers, or your employees, make a connection. Think about their well-being too, not just your own profits or how much money you're making. Because honestly, what makes someone a great businessperson—and more importantly, a great human—is that personal connection with others.
I remember working with a group of entrepreneurs who had been part of a recovery program through the UNDP. This was after the devastating 2017 earthquake in Mexico, and just a couple of years later, they were hit again—this time by COVID. These communities had really been through it.
One story that stayed with me was about a small hotel business. During COVID, they were struggling—like many others—because no one was traveling or staying at hotels. But what made them different was how deeply connected they were to their staff and their community. They’d known their employees for years and treated them like family. They offered benefits, gave people time off when needed, and supported them however they could—even as a small business with limited resources.
And because of that, when the pandemic hit, their employees stepped up. They said, “We’re not going anywhere. We’re staying. We’ll take a pay cut. We’ll keep the hotel running—because we believe in this and we believe in each other.” That kind of loyalty and commitment was incredible. Honestly, they were part of the program, but we learned just as much from them as they did from us—maybe more—because they had built something resilient through care and connection.
That’s what I think we’re losing sometimes: that sense of shared purpose, of truly being in this together. We’re not just here to make a profit. We’re here to build something that works for everyone involved.
So, my message to small entrepreneurs is this: embrace your community, invest in your people, and they will lift you up when times get tough. That’s what sustainability really means—it’s not just environmental or financial; it’s about building relationships that can weather the storm.
I think there’s so much we need to relearn when we talk about sustainability. One of the biggest things is remembering that community matters—that people aren’t here to come for you or attack you. People are here to support you. We’re social beings. We thrive in communities, in teamwork, in building things together.
Another important point is that everyone has an impact—but the real question is, what kind of impact do you want to have? Do you want it to be positive or negative?
And we also need to get more comfortable with discomfort. I think a lot of young people today feel uneasy about things like picking up the phone or talking to someone face-to-face. I get it—I'm a private person too. I love staying home. But I also know that you can’t grow unless you step outside your comfort zone. You have to connect. You have to ask for help. Because no one can do this alone.
Whether it's mental health, business, economics—whatever it is—you need people.
Yeah, and I think that’s such an important reminder, especially now. A lot of conversations around mental health or self-love can end up sounding like, “I have to do this on my own.” Like everything becomes so individualized—but really, it’s about finding strength through connection.
Yes, I think some traits—like caring for others, or for the environment—are things people are naturally born with. But I also believe they can be taught.
One of the most important things we need to start teaching is that sustainability is everywhere. It’s not just a subject you teach once in isolation. It should be part of how we teach math, history, science—everything. Sustainability is such a broad concept, and it touches on so many areas of life, so we need to treat it as a cross-sector theme.
We also need to start this education early. For example, ask young kids: Where does your food come from? That simple question opens the door to understanding health, energy, nourishment, and how our choices connect to the planet.
And the same goes for animals and insects. We need to teach respect for all living beings. You can't just go around killing bugs and saying, “Ugh, I’m scared of them.” I’m actually a huge fan of bugs—I love seeing them crawl around! But I see people freak out over a tiny ant or a little bee, and I think, if only you knew the role these creatures play in supporting life. Bees, for instance, are fascinating and essential to humanity.
This kind of disconnection—from food, from nature, from discomfort—is something we've lost. People don’t want to get dirty anymore. But there are so many benefits to playing in the dirt, especially for kids. It’s not just fun; it supports mental health and builds bonds with the community and environment. Some of my strongest memories and friendships came from getting muddy at camp, picking up little snakes, or watching spiders together.
So yes, we need to relearn these things. We need to become more comfortable with discomfort—whether that’s being a little cold or a little hot. Instead of instantly reaching for the air conditioning, we can try to appreciate the seasons, the natural rhythms.
When we reconnect like that—with nature, with people—it brings us joy, and that’s where true thriving begins.
So when we talk about teaching sustainability, we can’t just lump everything under it like it’s a big umbrella. Instead, it needs to be the approach, the methodology, that flows through everything—from food to finance. Sustainability should be the goal we're working toward in every field, not just the label we stick on top. It’s about building a world where all these systems—social, economic, environmental—can actually regenerate and thrive.
Because in the end, sustainability is not just about protecting the planet. It’s about how we care for each other. It’s about health, justice, equity, resilience. And if we can reconnect with those things—from a young age, in every corner of society—we’ll be in a much better place.
We just have to get to sustainability somehow—and there are a lot of different ways to do that. I’m not saying we should write off big corporations entirely. They've done a lot for people. There has been a positive impact—maybe not the one we expected or hoped for, and in the long run, maybe not the most sustainable—but it was an impact nonetheless. People have been able to feed their children, support their families, even if it wasn't with the healthiest food or the most ethical products. Still, they survived.
We have to acknowledge that everyone is trying to make an impact in their own way. I really do believe in the goodness of people. I don’t think most people are intentionally trying to harm others or the planet. I believe that many are genuinely trying to give back to their communities, even if the outcomes haven’t always matched the original intentions. People are making an effort, and that counts.
It’s the same with oil. You can’t just say, “Oil is bad, so let’s cut it out of our lives entirely.” Oil has played a huge role in agriculture, in energy access, in helping families—especially in developing regions—meet basic needs. Yes, we now see the harm it causes and understand there are better paths forward. But that doesn’t mean we should vilify the people or industries that helped us get here.
The same goes for things like monoculture farming. It’s easy to criticize now, but those systems helped us survive and feed entire populations. We’re recognizing now that there are better, more regenerative ways forward—but part of that journey is appreciating the complexity and acknowledging what came before, even as we work to do better.
Claudia Cordova
Environmental Scientist and Entrepreneur

Claudia Cordova is a sustainability professional with over a decade of experience at the intersection of environmental science, sustainable development, and ethical entrepreneurship. With undergraduate degrees in Environmental Sciences and Business Creation and Development, as well as a Master’s in Sustainable Development in Practice, she has worked across research labs, grassroots initiatives, and global organizations including the UNDP and Consumers International. Her work consistently explores how we can live, work, and build in ways that support both people and the planet.
Her passion lies in connecting ideas across sectors—whether through designing climate-smart business strategies, nurturing resilient communities, or rethinking how sustainability is taught and communicated. She believes in progress over perfection, and that small shifts in mindset can lead to meaningful, lasting change.
Outside of work, she enjoys macro photography, drawing intricate patterns, and going on nature walks—practices that reflect her belief that attention to detail, in nature and in life, is a vital part of living sustainably.